Doubles Kommo-o (GP 1/1)

[Grandmas Cookin]

[OVERVIEW]
Kommo-o is a niche sweeper for offensive teams because of its matchup reliance due to its checks such as Tapu Fini and Naganadel being fairly common. After a Clangorous Soul or Iron Defense boost, Kommo-o poses a threat to common Pokemon. Due to its handful of notable resistances, it can take on foes such as Rillaboom, Incineroar, and Zeraora. Kommo-o looks to set up with help from redirection and Fake Out, as it’s relatively passive and easy to pick off before it boosts. Kommo-o is especially weak to Fairy-type Pokemon, and Expanding Force, which cannot be redirected in Psychic Terrain. Tapu Fini, in particular, is troublesome, as it invalidates Kommo-o entirely with Misty Terrain. Kommo-o struggles against Psychic spam teams as well since it gets OHKOed by Necrozma’s Expanding Force and Tapu Lele’s Moonblast while struggling to pressure them in return. Naganadel and Kyurem-B threaten to OHKO Kommo-o before it sets up; however, if it safely gets a Clangorous Soul off it will become a threat to them instead. Rillaboom is a support for Kommo-o as it both checks Tapu Fini and sets Grassy Terrain to replace Misty or Psychic Terrain. The recovery provided by Grassy Terrain also helps make up for Clangorous Souls recoil. Amoonguss is another great teammate, providing redirection with Rage Powder and recovery with Pollen Puff.

[SET]
name: Throat Spray Sweeper
move 1: Clangorous Soul
move 2: Clanging Scales
move 3: Flamethrower / Flash Cannon
move 4: Protect
item: Throat Spray
ability: Overcoat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

* This set aims to sweep with Clanging Scales after a Clangorous Soul boost, with Throat Spray giving an additional +1 to Special Attack.

* This set threatens massive spread damage with Clanging Scales after a boost. Additionally, it threatens Dragon-types like Naganadel, and Kyurem-B.

* Flamethrower hits Steel-types like Genesect, Celesteela, and Metagross, but should only be used when these mons are actively threatening Kommo-o as Clanging Scales already deals sufficient damage.

* Flash Cannon hits Fairy-types like Diancie and Tapu Lele; however, it is largely outclassed by Flamethrower due to its vastly worse overall matchup spread.

* Protect gives Kommo-o free turns to avoid damage while letting teammates pivot in to support it. It is particularly useful on this set as Kommo-o is frequently being double targetted when on the field.

* Overcoat protects Kommo-o from Amoonguss’s Spore and keeps Rage Powder users from redirecting its single target moves.

* A Timid nature with max Special Attack and Speed investment maximizes Kommo-o's offensive potential while retaining a decent Speed tier.

[SET]
name: Body Press
move 1: Iron Defense
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Overcoat
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

* This set uses Iron Defence to boost its Body Press to frightening levels of power while becoming harder to defeat.

* Because this set uses Body Press as a solo attacking move, Kommo-o can afford to run Stealth Rock to support its team.

* Protect gives Kommo-o free turns to get Leftovers recovery and stall while a support teammate is switched in.

* Overcoat lets Kommo-o ignore Rage Powder from Amoonguss and Volcarona, and gives it an immunity to Amoonguss’s Spore.

* The Speed investment lets Kommo-o outspeed Modest Celesteela, letting it trade effectively, while the Defense investment lets Kommo-o OHKO Porygon2, Heatran, and Incineroar at +2, and trade positively with physical attackers like Urshifu, Zeraora, and Rillaboom.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

On the Throat Spray set, Aura Sphere is an option to hit Heatran harder; however, most other Steel-types in DOU take neutral damage from it. Soundproof prevents Snarl from lowering Kommo-o’s Special Attack however, it is vastly inferior immunities to Sand, Hail, and Spore that Overcoat provides. For the Body Press set, Substitute lets Kommo-o avoid common ways of passively chipping it like Toxic and Will-O-Wisp. Draco Meteor can nab unexpected KOs on other Dragon-types thinking they can switch in and threaten Kommo-o.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Grandmas Cookin, 428483]]
- Quality checked by: [[Memoric, 215000], [dnagerbdager, 531334]]
- Grammar checked by: [[dex, 277988]]

 

[Idyll]

check

You only need one Other Options section, at the bottom. I also don't think Press is main set material, so we can remove that set and just mention it in OO.

For the Overview, while the points you make here are pretty much all true, the big problem here overall is that it comes across as making Kommo-o seem better than it actually is, when in all actuality it's a Tier 5 Pokemon. In writing for Pokemon like these, you have to make explicit how while it does have a particularly strong niche, for very big reasons it's a flawed choice in the metagame. For this particular analysis, stress more the presence of Fini and PsySpam in the metagame, them being mentioned at the end instead of at a more emphasized part of the write up effectively downplays their effect on Kommo-o's viability. I recommend looking at these analyses on Kingdra and Nihilego as examples on writing overviews for lower-ranked Pokemon. (Also, we aren't supposed to reference other tiers and past generations in the write-up, so remove the bit about being DNU).

My general comment for your [SET COMMENTS] is you should... use more words. Generally, when talking about moves, we aim to be descriptive in saying what they're supposed to do for the set. Also, aside from saying who they hit, we also aim to make explicit the practical applications for them being in the set. I recommend looking at the analyses I linked earlier as examples for writing moves descriptions on offensive Pokemon as well. Also, remember to explain Protect, item, spread, and ability choice. What you have on the analysis write now is fine info-wise, just build on it more.

tell me somewhere when this is implemented

e: after some discussion u can keep press zzz

 

[Idyll]

Looks much better, just some minor notes now

Overview

• You can probably say more in your lead sentence on why it's "niche", saying a short piece on why it's usable but also why it's not that usable and relegated to niche status.
• For sentence 3, instead of saying its exact typing resistances, it'd be better to say something like "it has a handful of resistances that let it take on x, y, and z". feel free to pick ones that work here.
• "Due to its Dragon Fighting typing" is unnecessary, people should know about its typing already. Also, when you mention PsySpam and Fini, also mention that they are common threats that essentially invalidate Kommo-o; word how they shit on Kommo-o more strongly and explicitly.
• " It fits nicely on offensive teams. " looks quite hanging there. This point can probably be incorporated in your first few sentences.

Set Comments for both

• Again, use more words, especially when you're explaining the coverage moves. "x for a, b, and c" doesn't cut it. Again, look at other analyses for how they did it, like the ones I linked before and this Kyurem-B analysis.
• Explain spread and nature choice, like what do they let Kommo-o live or outrun, particularly in contrast with another nature for Timid vs Modest.

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[Grandmas Cookin]

implemented

 

[zoe]

check check

[OVERVIEW]

• I would say how the matchups that it thrives in are quite rare due to how common its checks are.
• Feel like Naganadel and Kyurem-B should be mentioned somewhere as Pokemon that threaten it before a boost, but lose to it after.
• Mention how rilla beats fini for it.

[SET COMMENTS]

• Don't need to put 0 atk IVs btw, builder automatically does that for you.
• For Clanging Scales I would say how it hits Dragon-types who might threaten Kommo-o (like Naganadel). Make sure to state it in a way that emphasizes that this is an added benefit to scales, not the main reason for using it.

Overall this is a massive improvement. There are some grammatical issues (punctuation mainly), but they're nothing you cant fix so.

QC 2/2

ping me once you implement it if you need any help with the process afterwards.

 

[Grandmas Cookin]

implemented! lmk if theres anything left before I send this to grammar prose

 

[Aqua Jet]

AMGP - Klanger

[OVERVIEW]
Kommo-o finds itself to be a niche sweeper for offensive teams in the DOU metagame due to its reliance on matchup due to as a result of (This is more of a nitpick, but I don't really like "due to" being repeated twice so close to each other) its multitude of checks (not QC, but maybe list some examples?) being fairly common. After a Clangorous Soul or Iron Defense boost, Kommo-o can pose a threat to common Pokemon (again, not QC, but some examples would look excellent here) in the DOU tier. With a Due to its handful of notable resistances, that let it can take on foes such as Rillaboom, Incineroar, and Zeraora. Kommo-o looks to set up with help from redirection, (RC) and Fake Out, as it’s relatively passive and easy to pick off while unboosted. Kommo-o is especially weak to Fairies Fairy-type Pokemon, as well as to Expanding Force which cannot be redirected in Psychic Terrain. Tapu Fini in particular invalidates it entirely with its Misty Terrain. Kommo-o struggles to versus against Psyspam teams as well since it gets OHKOd by Necrozma’s Expanding Force, and Tapu Lele’s Moonblast, while struggling to damage them in return. Naganadel and Kyurem-Black threaten an OHKO's on or deny setup from Kommo-o prior to boosting, however, if it safely gets a Clangorous Soul off it will become a threat to them instead. Some Pokemon that best support Kommo-o are Rillaboom who both checks and replaces Tapu Fini’s Misty Terrain or the Psychic Terrain found on Psyspam teams. (this sentence doesn't read very well, I'd try to rephrase it) The recovery provided by Grassy Terrain also helps make up for the 33% HP cost of using Clangorous Soul. Amoonguss is another great teammate with Rage Powder for Redirection and Pollen Puff for recovery.

[SET]
name: Throat Spray Sweeper
move 1: Clangorous Soul
move 2: Clanging Scales
move 3: Flamethrower / Flash Cannon
move 4: Protect
item: Throat Spray
ability: Overcoat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

* The Throat Spray set aims to sweep with Clanging Scales after a Clangorous Soul omniboost, with Throat Spray giving an additional +1 to Special Attack.

* This set threatens massive spread damage with Clanging Scales after a boost. Additionally, it threatens Dragon-types like Naganadel, or Kyurem-Black. (AP)

* Flamethrower hits Steel types like Genesect, Celesteela, or Metagross, but should only be used when these mons are actively threatening Kommo-o as Clanging Scales already provides relevant damage.

* Flash Cannon hits Fairy types like Diancie, or Tapu Lele, however it is largely outclassed by Flamethrower due to its vastly worse overall matchup spread.

* Protect gives Kommo-o free turns to avoid damage from threats, and lets teammates pivot in to support it. It is particularly useful on this set as Kommo-o is frequently being double targetted when on the field.

* Overcoat protects Kommo-o from Spore attempts from Amoonguss and keeps Rage Powder users from drawing in its single target moves.

* Timid with max Special Attack and Speed maximizes the offensive potential of Kommo-o and is vastly preferred to Modest for a more relevant speed tier.


[SET]
name: Body Press
move 1: Iron Defense
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Overcoat
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

* This set uses Iron Defence to boost its Body Press to frightening levels of power while it becomes harder to defeat. kill from the physical spectrum

* Stealth Rock takes advantage of the free slot offered by mono Body Press coverage to support its team with passive chip damage. (AP)

* Protect gives Kommo-o free turns to get Leftovers recovery, as well as gives ample time to bring in support options like Fake out, or redirection. (AP)

* Overcoat lets Kommo-o ignore Rage Powder attempts from Amoonguss or Volcarona, and gives it an immunity to Amoonguss’s Spore as well.

* The Speed investment lets Kommo-o outspeed Modest Celesteela letting you trade effectively, and the remaining Defence EVs lets Kommo-o OHKO Porygon2, Heatran, and Incineroar at +2, while trading positively with physical attackers like Urshifu, Zeraora, and Rillaboom.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

On the Throat Spray set, Aura Sphere gives another STAB coverage option however, it really only hits Heatran as the other Steel types in DOU take neutral damage from Fighting. Soundproof will prevent Snarl from lowering your Special Attack however, it is vastly inferior to the Sand Hail and Spore immunity provided by Overcoat. For the Body Press set, Substitute lets Kommo-o avoid common ways of passively chipping it down like Toxic or, Will-O-Wisp. Draco Meteor can nab unexpected KOs on other Dragon-types thinking they can switch in and threaten Kommo-o.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Grandmas Cookin, 428483]]
- Quality checked by: [[Memoric, 215000]], [dnagerbdager, 531334]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

 

[Grandmas Cookin]

implemented chose to leave the things it threatens in the opening line as is, because it gets mentioned almost immediately after and would have felt redundant.

 

[dex]

GP Check

GP Check

[OVERVIEW]
Kommo-o finds itself to be a niche sweeper for offensive teams in the metagame as a result of its reliance on matchup due to its multitude of checks,because of its matchup reliance due to its checks such as Tapu Fini and Naganadel being fairly common. After a Clangorous Soul or Iron Defense boost, Kommo-o can poses a threat to common Pokemon. Due to its handful of notable resistances, it can take on foes such as Rillaboom, Incineroar, and Zeraora. Kommo-o looks to set up with help from redirection and Fake Out, as it’s relatively passive and easy to pick off while unboostedbefore it boosts. Kommo-o is especially weak to Fairy-type Pokemon, as well as to and Expanding Force, which cannot be redirected in Psychic Terrain. Tapu Fini in particular invalidates it, in particular, is troublesome, as it invalidates Kommo-o entirely with its Misty Terrain. Kommo-o struggles to against Psychic spam teams as well since it gets OHKOed by Necrozma’s Expanding Force, and Tapu Lele’s Moonblast, while struggling to damagpressure them in return. Naganadel and Kyurem-Black threaten an OHKO on or deny setup from Kommo-o prior to boosting, threaten to OHKO Kommo-o before it sets up; however, if it safely gets a Clangorous Soul off it will become a threat to them instead. Rillaboom is a support for Kommo-o, it threatens them instead. Rillaboom supports Kommo-o very well, as it both checks Tapu Fini and sets Grassy Terrain to replace Misty or Psychic Terrain. The recovery provided by Grassy Terrain also helps make up for the 33% HP cost of using Clangorous Soul recoil. Amoonguss is another great teammate, providing redirection with Rage Powder for Redirection and Pollen Puff for recoveryand recovery with Pollen Puff.

[SET]
name: Throat Spray Sweeper
move 1: Clangorous Soul
move 2: Clanging Scales
move 3: Flamethrower / Flash Cannon
move 4: Protect
item: Throat Spray
ability: Overcoat
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

* The Throat Sprayis set aims to sweep with Clanging Scales after a Clangorous Soul omniboost, with Throat Spray giving an additional +1 to Special Attack.

* This set threatens massive spread damage with Clanging Scales after a boost. Additionally, it threatens Dragon-types like Naganadel, or Kyurem-Black.

* Flamethrower hits Steel and Kyurem-B.

* Flamethrower hits Steel-types like Genesect, Celesteela, orand Metagross, but it should only be used when these mons are actively threatening Kommo-o, as Clanging Scales already provides relevadeals sufficient damage.

* Flash Cannon hits Fairy types like Diancie, or Tapu Lele, however-types like Diancie and Tapu Lele; however, it is largely outclassed by Flamethrower due to its vastly worse overall matchup spread.

* Protect gives Kommo-o free turns to avoid damage from threats, and letswhile letting teammates pivot in to support it. It is particularly useful on this set, as Kommo-o is frequently being double targetted when on the field.

* Overcoat protects Kommo-o from Spore attempts from Amoonguss's Spore and keeps Rage Powder users from drawing inredirecting its single target moves.

* A Timid nature with max Special Attack and Speed maximizes the offensive potential of Kommo-o and is vastly preferred to Modest for a more relevant sinvestment maximizes Kommo-o's offensive potential while retaining a decent Speed tier.

[SET]
name: Body Press
move 1: Iron Defense
move 2: Body Press
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Overcoat
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

* This set uses Iron Defence to boost itsse to boost Body Press to frightening levels of power while it becomes harder to defeat.

* Stealth Rock takes advantage of the free slot offered by mono Body Press coveragebecoming harder to defeat.

* Because this set uses Body Press as a solo attacking move, Kommo-o can afford to run Stealth Rock to support its team with passive chip damage.

* Protect gives Kommo-o free turns to get Leftovers recovery, as well as gives ample time to bring in support options like Fake out, or redirectio and stall while a support teammate is switched in.

* Overcoat lets Kommo-o ignore Rage Powder attempts from Amoonguss or Volcarona,and Volcarona and gives it an immunity to Amoonguss’s Spore as well.

* The Speed investment lets Kommo-o outspeed Modest Celesteela letting you trade effectively, and the remaining Defence EVs, letting it trade effectively, while the Defense investment lets Kommo-o OHKO Porygon2, Heatran, and Incineroar at +2, while trading and trade positively with physical attackers like Urshifu, Zeraora, and Rillaboom.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

On the Throat Spray set, Aura Sphere gives another STAB coverage option however, it really only hits Heatran as the other Steel is an option to hit Heatran harder; however, most other Steel-types in DOU take neutral damage from Fighting. Soundproof will prevents Snarl from lowering yourKommo-o's Special Attack; however, it is vastly inferior to the Sand Hail and Spore immunity provided by Overcoatimmunities to Sand, Hail, and Spore that Overcoat provides. For the Body Press set, Substitute lets Kommo-o avoid common ways of passively chipping it down like Toxic or,like Toxic and Will-O-Wisp. Draco Meteor can nab unexpected KOs on other Dragon-types thinking they can switch in and threaten Kommo-o.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Grandmas Cookin, 428483]]
- Quality checked by: [[Memoric, 215000]], [dnagerbdager, 531334]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1dex, 277988]]

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[Grandmas Cookin]

implemented

 

[zoe]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/ss/pokemon/kommo-o/doubles/