Heatran (Ubers Stallbreaker)

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Status: Rough Draft

[SET]
name: Ubers Stallbreaker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Roar
move 3: Flamethrower / Lava Plume
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 128 Spe / 128 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>In the Uber metagame, Heatran appears to be an odd choice for a stall breaker at first, especially when one considers how common its weaknesses to Fighting-, Ground- and Water-type attacks appear to be. However, Heatran’s excellent set of resistances and immunities, most notably to Dragon- and Fire- attacks, coupled with its durable defenses give it ample opportunities to switch in. Heatran can also abuse its talent at forcing switches with Roar, compounding entry hazard damage, as well as preventing recovery from the likes of Bulk Up Dialga, Giratina, and Blissey through the use of Taunt. Of course, one can not forget that Heatran still has magnificent Special Attack and Flash Fire, and is capable of inflicting serious damage with its STABed Flamethrower. </p>

<p>Flamethrower is the preferred attack of the set due to its combination of consistency and power, but Lava Plume may be used over it for the increased chance of burning the opponent. Dragon Pulse allows Heatran to deal quick damage to Dragon- types and pairs well with its Fire-type attack, hitting everything for at least neutral damage barring an opposing Heatran. However, Dragon Pulse isn’t powerful enough to break Latias and Latios apart due to their magnificent Special Defense and Recover, and immunity to Spikes and Stealth Rock may make it difficult for Heatran to accomplish its job. Toxic provides Heatran a way to severely cripple her as well as a way for it to easily destroy Lugia. Finally, Protect can also be used in the last slot, in order to scout for random Earthquakes or Earth Powers from the likes of Giratina-O and Dialga. It aids in prediction against Choiced opponents and can also help Heatran recover a bit more with Leftovers. Toxic Spikes support is a must if you decide to use Protect, however, as Heatran loses some coverage without Dragon Pulse or Toxic.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<pThe EVs on this set is particularly simple. 252 HP EVs grants Heatran a fair amount of balanced bulk, while the Speed EVs allow it to outrun the standard defensive Groudon, Giratina, Dialga, and Deoxys-D. The rest are thrown into Special Defense to help it switch into the dominant special attacks in the Uber metagame easier, particularly against the powerful Draco Meteors from the likes of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina-O, and Mixed Rayquaza. The Special Defense EVs also achieve a bonus point. Since this set’s purpose is not to achieve specific KOes via attacking, no Special Attack investment is required.</p>

<p>To fully realize this set’s potential, a fair amount of support is required. First and foremost, entry hazards are absolutely crucial to this set’s success. Forretress can set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes – both which largely contribute to the terror of this set, as well as baiting Fire- type attacks for Heatran to chow down upon. The ability to clear away the foe’s entry hazards is also helpful as Heatran itself is vulnerable to Spikes. Although Deoxys-S is incapable of using Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, it can quickly lay down Spikes so that Heatran may begin its rampage early. Deoxys-S can also lay down Stealth Rock, but for this type of set you will prefer that Deoxys-S focus on laying down Spikes and have another Pokemon put up Stealth Rock to maximize the amount of entry hazards on the field. Groudon is unarguably the best Pokemon for this role as it also provides the much- needed sunlight for Heatran. It can also ward off physical Rayquaza and Tyranitar who could otherwise murder Heatran with Earthquake. Finally, a spinblocker is required so that the opponent can not Rapid Spin the entry hazards away. Giratina-O is perfect for the job as it also provides defensive synergy with Heatran as both Pokemon cover each other’s weaknesses perfectly. Giratina is also a viable choice due to its higher defenses.</p>

<p>By far Heatran’s biggest threat is Kyogre, as it can override the sun with Drizzle and OHKO Heatran with Surf. Latias is an excellent partner as it handles Kyogre with relative ease and has amazing defensive synergy with Heatran. Palkia, although not effective at taking out Calm Mind Kyogre, can defeat Choice Specs and Choice Scarf Kyogre thanks to its 4x resistance to Water-type attacks. Heatran also resists Palkia’s sole weakness to Dragon. As this Heatran set has no form of recovery outside of Leftovers, an extra Pokemon to absorb Dragon-type attacks are welcome as they can relieve some of the stress on Heatran. Jirachi in particular is a great choice as it also can pass Wishes to Heatran. Be warned, though, as Jirachi compounds Heatran’s weakness to Ground. Scizor and the aforementioned Forretress are both not weak to Ground- type attacks and can take a few Dragon-type attacks. Both Pokemon are capable of defeating the occasional Earthquake Giratina-O as it rarely carries both Hidden Power Fire and Earthquake. Blissey is also a great partner for Heatran as it can fulfill most of the requirements mentioned above, and can also take care of Latias and Latios, allowing Heatran to use Dragon Pulse instead of Toxic. Beware of opposing Heatran with Earth Power as well. Since these Heatrans tend to lack anti-stall techniques, the aforementioned Blissey and Latias can often take care of them.</p>


AND because I can...
 
Protect is worth a mention in set comments because it aids prediction vs. Scarfers (Kyogre, Palkia, etc.), and it is pretty cool to scout for things like EQ Giratina-O.

 

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[SET]
name: Ubers Stallbreaker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Roar
move 3: Flamethrower / Lava Plume
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 128 Spe / 128 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>In the Uber metagame, Heatran appears to be an odd choice for a stall breaker stallbreaker at first, especially when one considers how common its weaknesses to Fighting-, Ground- and Water-type attacks appear to be (it is the moves that are common not the weaknesses). However, Heatran’s excellent set of resistances and immunities, most notably to Dragon- and Fire- attacks, coupled with its durable defenses give it ample opportunities to switch in. Heatran can also abuse its talent at force switches with Roar, compounding entry hazard damage, as well as preventing recovery from the likes of Bulk Up Dialga, Giratina, and Blissey through the use of Taunt. Of course, one cannot forget that Heatran still has magnificent Special Attack and Flash Fire, and is capable of inflicting serious damage with its STABed Flamethrower. </p>

<p>Flamethrower is the preferred attack of the set due to its combination of consistency and power, but Lava Plume may be used over it for the increased chance of burning the opponent. Dragon Pulse allows Heatran to deal quick damage to Dragon- types and pairs well with its Fire-type attack, hitting everything for at least neutral damage barring an opposing Heatran. However, Dragon Pulse isn’t powerful enough to break Latias and Latios apart due to their magnificent Special Defense and Recover, and immunity to Spikes and Stealth Rock may make it difficult for Heatran to accomplish its job. Toxic provides Heatran a way to severely cripple them as well as a way for it to easily destroy Lugia. Finally, Protect can also be used in the last slot, in order to scout for random (unexpected is different from random) Earthquakes or Earth Powers from the likes of Giratina-O and Dialga. It aids in prediction against Choiced opponents and can also help Heatran recover a bit more with Leftovers. Toxic Spikes support is a must if you decide to use Protect, however, as Heatran loses some coverage without Dragon Pulse or Toxic.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread on this set is particularly simple. 252 HP EVs grant Heatran a fair amount of balanced bulk, while the Speed EVs allow it to outrun the standard defensive Groudon, Giratina, Dialga, and Deoxys-D. The rest are thrown into Special Defense to help it switch into the dominant special attacks in the Uber metagame more easily, particularly against the powerful Draco Meteors from the likes of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina-O, and Mixed Rayquaza. The Special Defense EVs also achieve a bonus point. Since this set’s purpose is not to achieve specific KOs via attacking, no Special Attack investment is required.</p>

<p>To fully realize this set’s potential, a fair amount of support is required. First and foremost, entry hazards are absolutely crucial to this set’s success. Forretress can set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes – both of which largely contribute to the terror of this set, as well as baiting Fire- type attacks for Heatran to chow down upon (?) switch in on. The ability to clear away the foe’s entry hazards is also helpful as Heatran itself is vulnerable to Spikes. Although Deoxys-S is incapable of using Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, it can quickly lay down Spikes so that Heatran may begin its rampage early. Deoxys-S can also lay down Stealth Rock, but for this type of set you will prefer that Deoxys-S focus on laying down Spikes and have another Pokemon put up Stealth Rock to maximize the number of entry hazards on the field. Groudon is unarguably the best Pokemon for this role as it also provides the much- needed sunlight for Heatran. It can also ward off physical Rayquaza and Tyranitar who could otherwise murder (a bit extreme?) Heatran with Earthquake. Finally, a Spin-blocker is required so that the opponent cannot Rapid Spin the entry hazards away. Giratina-O is perfect for the job as it also provides defensive synergy with Heatran as both Pokemon they(more concise) cover each other’s weaknesses perfectly. Giratina is also a viable choice due to its higher defenses.</p>

<p>By far Heatran’s biggest threat is the biggest threat to Heatran is Kyogre, as it can override the sun with Drizzle and OHKO Heatran with Surf. Latias is an excellent partner as she handles Kyogre with relative ease and has amazing defensive synergy with Heatran. Palkia, although not effective at taking out Calm Mind Kyogre, can defeat Choice Specs and Choice Scarf Kyogre thanks to its 4x resistance to Water-type attacks. Heatran also resists Palkia’s sole weakness to Dragon. As this Heatran set has no form of recovery outside of Leftovers, an extra Pokemon to absorb Dragon-type attacks are welcome as they can relieve some of the stress from Heatran. Jirachi in particular is a great choice as it also can pass Wishes to Heatran. Be warned, though, as Jirachi compounds Heatran’s weakness to Ground. Scizor and the aforementioned Forretress are both not weak to Ground- type attacks and can take a few Dragon-type attacks. Both Pokemon are capable of defeating the occasional Earthquake Giratina-O as it rarely carries both Hidden Power Fire and Earthquake. Blissey is also a great partner for Heatran as she can fulfill most of the requirements mentioned above, and can also take care of Latias and Latios, allowing Heatran to use Dragon Pulse instead of Toxic. Beware of opposing Heatran with Earth Power as well. Since these Heatran tend to lack anti-stall techniques, the aforementioned Blissey and Latias can often take care of them
Changes in Bold and removals in red. After a few problems with a previous analysis, I shall hold the stamp until the analysis has been sufficiently edited (note that this does not necessarily mean all of the changes exactly as recommended). Also, nice analysis!

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Good work Jibaku. I can't comment much on content since I'm out of touch with battling, but here's my grammar edits.

[/B] [SET]
name: Ubers Stallbreaker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Roar
move 3: Flamethrower / Lava Plume
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 128 Spe / 128 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>In the Uber metagame, Heatran appears to be an odd choice for a stall breaker at first, especially when one considers how common its weaknesses, Fighting-, Ground- and Water-type attacks, appear to be (changed for better flow). However, Heatran’s excellent set of resistances and immunities, most notably to Dragon- and Fire- attacks, coupled with its durable defenses, give it ample opportunities to switch in. Heatran can also abuse its talent at forcing switches with Roar, compounding entry hazard damage, as well as preventing recovery from the likes of Bulk Up Dialga, Giratina, and Blissey through the use of Taunt. Of course, one can not forget that Heatran still has magnificent Special Attack and Flash Fire, and is capable of inflicting serious damage with its STABed? (I don't think "STABed" is commonly used, I think you should use STAB instead) Flamethrower. </p>

<p>Flamethrower is the preferred attack of the set due to its combination of consistency and power, but Lava Plume may be used over it for the increased chance of burning the opponent. Dragon Pulse allows Heatran to deal quick damage to Dragon-types (deleted extra spacing) and pairs well with its Fire-type attack, hitting everything for at least neutral damage barring an opposing Heatran. However, Dragon Pulse isn’t powerful enough to break Latias and Latios apart due to their magnificent Special Defense and Recover, and immunity to Spikes and Stealth Rock may make it difficult for Heatran to accomplish its job. Toxic provides Heatran a way to severely cripple them (pronoun consistency) as well as a way for it to easily destroy Lugia. Finally, Protect can also be used in the last slot, in order to scout for random Earthquakes or Earth Powers from the likes of Giratina-O and Dialga. It aids in prediction against Choiced opponents and can also help Heatran recover a bit more with Leftovers. Toxic Spikes support is a must if you decide to use Protect, however, as Heatran loses some coverage without either Dragon Pulse or Toxic.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<pThe EVs on this set is particularly simple. 252 HP EVs grants Heatran a fair amount of balanced bulk, while the Speed EVs allow it to outrun the standard defensive Groudon, Giratina, Dialga, and Deoxys-D. The rest are thrown into Special Defense to help it switch into the dominant special attacks in the Uber metagame easier, particularly against the powerful Draco Meteors from the likes of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina-O, and Mixed Rayquaza. The Special Defense EVs also achieve a bonus point. Since this set’s purpose is not to achieve specific KOes via attacking, no Special Attack investment is required.</p>

<p>To fully realize this set’s potential, a fair amount of support is required. First and foremost, entry hazards are absolutely crucial to this set’s success. Forretress can set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes – both which largely contribute to the terror of this set, as well as baiting Fire- type attacks for Heatran to chow down upon. The ability to clear away the foe’s entry hazards is also helpful as Heatran itself is vulnerable to Spikes. Although Deoxys-S is incapable of using Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, it can quickly lay down Spikes so that Heatran may begin its rampage early. Deoxys-S can also lay down Stealth Rock, but for this type of set you will prefer that Deoxys-S focus on laying down Spikes and have another Pokemon put up Stealth Rock to maximize the amount of entry hazards on the field. Groudon is unarguably the best Pokemon for this role as it also provides the much- needed sunlight for Heatran. It can also ward off physical Rayquaza and Tyranitar who could otherwise murder Heatran with Earthquake. Finally, a spinblocker is required so that the opponent can not Rapid Spin the entry hazards away. Giratina-O is perfect for the job as it also provides defensive synergy with Heatran: (fixed run-on sentence) both Pokemon cover each other’s weaknesses perfectly. Giratina is also a viable choice due to its higher defenses.</p>

<p>By far Heatran’s biggest threat is Kyogre, as it can override the sun with Drizzle and OHKO Heatran with Surf. Latias is an excellent partner as it handles Kyogre with relative ease and has amazing defensive synergy with Heatran. Palkia, although not effective at taking out Calm Mind Kyogre, can defeat Choice Specs and Choice Scarf Kyogre thanks to its 4x resistance to Water-type attacks. Heatran also resists Palkia’s sole Dragon-type weakness. As this Heatran set has no form of recovery outside of Leftovers, an extra Pokemon to absorb Dragon-type attacks are welcome as they can relieve some of the stress on Heatran. Jirachi in particular is a great choice as it also can pass Wishes to Heatran. Be warned, though, as Jirachi compounds Heatran’s weakness to Ground. Scizor and the aforementioned Forretress are both not weak to Ground- type attacks and can take a few Dragon-type attacks. Both Pokemon are capable of defeating the occasional Earthquake Giratina-O as it rarely carries both Hidden Power Fire and Earthquake. Blissey is also a great partner for Heatran as it can fulfill most of the requirements mentioned above, and can also take care of Latias and Latios, allowing Heatran to use Dragon Pulse instead of Toxic. Beware of opposing Heatran with Earth Power as well. Since these Heatrans tend to lack anti-stall techniques, the aforementioned Blissey and Latias can often take care of them.</p>
 

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Just a few things:

[SET]
name: Ubers Stallbreaker
move 1: Taunt
move 2: Roar
move 3: Flamethrower / Lava Plume
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 128 Spe / 128 SpD (it should be SpD before Spe I think)

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>In the Uber metagame, Heatran appears to be an odd choice for a stall breaker at first, especially when one considers how common its weaknesses to Fighting-, Ground- and Water-type attacks appear to be. However, Heatran’s excellent set of resistances and immunities, most notably to Dragon- and Fire- attacks, coupled with its durable defenses give it ample opportunities to switch in. Heatran can also abuse its talent at forcing switches with Roar, compounding entry hazard damage, as well as preventing recovery from the likes of Bulk Up Dialga, Giratina, and Blissey through the use of Taunt. Of course, one can not forget that Heatran still has magnificent Special Attack and Flash Fire, and is capable of inflicting serious damage with its STABed Flamethrower. </p>

<p>Flamethrower is the preferred attack of the set due to its combination of consistency and power, but Lava Plume may be used over it for the increased chance of burning the opponent. Dragon Pulse allows Heatran to deal quick damage to Dragon- types and pairs well with its Fire-type attack, hitting everything for at least neutral damage barring an opposing Heatran. However, Dragon Pulse isn’t powerful enough to break Latias and Latios apart due to their magnificent Special Defense and Recover, and immunity to Spikes and Stealth Rock may make it difficult for Heatran to accomplish its job. Toxic provides Heatran a way to severely cripple her them as well as a way for it to easily destroy Lugia. Finally, Protect can also be used in the last slot, in order to scout for random Earthquakes or Earth Powers from the likes of Giratina-O and Dialga. It aids in prediction against Choiced opponents and can also help Heatran recover a bit more with Leftovers. Toxic Spikes support is a must if you decide to use Protect, however, as Heatran loses some coverage without Dragon Pulse or Toxic.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<pThe EVs on this set is particularly simple. 252 HP EVs grants Heatran a fair amount of balanced bulk, while the Speed EVs allow it to outrun the standard defensive Groudon, Giratina, Dialga, and Deoxys-D. The rest are thrown into Special Defense to help it switch into the dominant special attacks in the Uber metagame easier, particularly against the powerful Draco Meteors from the likes of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina-O, and Mixed Rayquaza. The Special Defense EVs also achieve a bonus point. Since this set’s purpose is not to achieve specific KOes via attacking, no Special Attack investment is required.</p>

<p>To fully realize this set’s potential, a fair amount of support is required. First and foremost, entry hazards are absolutely crucial to this set’s success. Forretress can set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes – both which largely contribute to the terror of this set, as well as baiting Fire- type attacks for Heatran to chow down upon(This sentence seems a little silly). The ability to clear away the foe’s entry hazards is also helpful as Heatran itself is vulnerable to Spikes. Although Deoxys-S is incapable of using Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin, it can quickly lay down Spikes so that Heatran may begin its rampage early. Deoxys-S can also lay down Stealth Rock, but for this type of set you will prefer that Deoxys-S focus on laying down Spikes and have another Pokemon put up Stealth Rock to maximize the amount of entry hazards on the field. Groudon is unarguably the best Pokemon for this role as it also provides the much- needed sunlight for Heatran. It can also ward off physical Rayquaza and Tyranitar who could otherwise murder Heatran with Earthquake. Finally, a spinblocker is required so that the opponent can not(it sounds better as cannot in my opinion) Rapid Spin the entry hazards away. Giratina-O is perfect for the job as it also provides defensive synergy with Heatran as both Pokemon cover each other’s weaknesses perfectly. Giratina is also a viable choice due to its higher defenses.</p>

<p>By far Heatran’s biggest threat is Kyogre, as it can override the sun with Drizzle and OHKO Heatran with Surf. Latias is an excellent partner as it handles Kyogre with relative ease and has amazing defensive synergy with Heatran. Palkia, although not effective at taking out Calm Mind Kyogre, can defeat Choice Specs and Choice Scarf Kyogre thanks to its 4x resistance to Water-type attacks. Heatran also resists Palkia’s sole weakness to Dragon. As this Heatran set has no form of recovery outside of Leftovers, an extra Pokemon to absorb Dragon-type attacks are welcome as they can relieve some of the stress on Heatran. Jirachi in particular is a great choice as it also can pass Wishes to Heatran. Be warned, though, as Jirachi compounds Heatran’s weakness to Ground. Scizor and the aforementioned Forretress are both not weak to Ground- type attacks and can take a few Dragon-type attacks. Both Pokemon are capable of defeating the occasional Earthquake Giratina-O as it rarely carries both Hidden Power Fire and Earthquake. Blissey is also a great partner for Heatran as it can fulfill most of the requirements mentioned above, and can also take care of Latias and Latios, allowing Heatran to use Dragon Pulse instead of Toxic. Beware of opposing Heatran with Earth Power as well. Since these Heatrans tend to lack anti-stall techniques, the aforementioned Blissey and Latias can often take care of them.</p>


Maybe next time I'll remember Earth Power on Shaymin-S....
 

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