Doubles ADV Gengar

[SET]
name: Fast Attacker
move 1: Ice Punch
move 2: Fire Punch
move 3: Explosion / Thunderbolt
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry / Salac Berry
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Gengar's high Speed and excellent offensive coverage make it a proficient revenge killer, while its Explosion and Destiny Bond command respect at all stages of the game. Its immunities to Earthquake and Explosion make it a safe switch-in to all of the metagame's strongest spread moves.
  • Ice Punch hits Latias and Zapdos super effectively while hitting most of the rest of the metagame for decent chip damage. Fire Punch is useful for hitting the omnipresent Metagross. This can be used in tandem with a partner's attack like Thunderbolt from Zapdos and Raikou or Hydro Pump from Starmie to remove Metagross before it gets a chance to move.
  • Explosion is a very high risk but high reward option, as even with Gengar's low attack stat, it does well over 75% to most neutral targets. Thunderbolt gives Gengar a stronger neutral attack and a way to hit Water-types without using Explosion.
  • Destiny Bond is excellent for punishing attacks that Gengar often draws in due to the threat of Explosion and its weak defenses.
  • Gengar can run a variety of other moves in niche scenarios including Giga Drain or Hidden Power Grass for Tyranitar and Swampert, Psychic for opposing Gengar, Skill Swap to give partners Levitate, Rain Dance or Sunny Day for weather setups, or Will-O-Wisp to burn physical attackers without a Lum Berry. However, these moves either have limited uses or only work on specific team setups.
  • As a lead, it's recommended to pair Gengar with teammates like Metagross and Swampert that deter Tyranitar from freely using Dragon Dance. Gengar also becomes dangerous in the back, as it can find weakened Pokemon to pick off with its coverage options.
  • Lum Berry will give Gengar a one-time buffer from the common Thunder Wave, making it the most commonly useful item. Salac Berry does get activated often as most strong neutral hits come just shy of KOing Gengar, and the subsequent Speed boost lets it outrun and use Explosion before faster Pokemon—like Starmie, Sceptile, and Raikou—can attack.
  • A very situational item, Silk Scarf boosts the raw power of Gengar's Explosion and can be used with a Hasty Nature and 68 Attack EVs to OHKO 4 HP Latias. Similarly, Charcoal helps with KOing Metagross with Fire Punch in conjunction with something like Latias's Hidden Power Fire or Raikou's Thunderbolt; however, both of these items have very specific niches, which makes them hard to generally recommend.

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[SET]
name: Offensive ("Special Attacker"? i get it to cuz boom is a big part of gar)
move 1: Ice Punch
move 2: Fire Punch
move 3: Explosion / Thunderbolt
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry / Salac Berry / Charcoal / Silk Scarf (better to add as bullet points but not relevant enough to slash on the main set)
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid / Hasty
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Gengar's high Speed and excellent offensive coverage make it an excellent (repetition; change to "a proficient/an adept" or such) revenge killer, while its access to Explosion and Destiny Bond make it a threat that commands respect at all stages of the game. Its immunities to Earthquake and Explosion make it a safe switch-in to all of the metagame's strongest spread moves.
  • Ice Punch hits Latias and Zapdos for super effectively, while hitting most of the rest of the metagame for decent chip damage.
  • Fire Punch is useful for hitting the omnipresent Metagross. This can be used in tandem with a partner's attack (such as?) to remove Metagross before it gets a chance to move. (condense with previous point?)
  • Explosion is a very high risk but high reward option, as even with Gengar's low attack stat it does well over 75% to most neutral hits. Thunderbolt gives Gengar a stronger neutral attack and a way to hit Water-types without using Explosion.
  • Destiny Bond is excellent for punishing attacks that Gengar often draws in due to the threat of Explosion and its weak defenses.
  • Gengar can run a variety of other moves in niche scenarios, including Giga Drain or Hidden Power Grass for Tyranitar and Swampert, Psychic for opposing Gengar, Skill Swap to give partners Levitate, Rain Dance or Sunny Day for weather setups, or Will-O-Wisp to burn physical attackers without a Lum Berry. However, these moves either have limited use cases or only work on specific team setups.
  • As a lead it's recommended to pair Gengar with teammates like Metagross and Swampert that deter Tyranitar from freely using Dragon Dance. Gengar also becomes dangerous in the back, as it can find weakened Pokemon to pick off with its coverage options. (i rewrote this bullet point as to flow and convey its information better imo)
  • Lum Berry will give Gengar a one-time buffer from the common Thunder Wave, making it the most commonly useful item. quite useful. Salac Berry does get activated often as most strong neutral hits come just shy of KOing Gengar, and the subsequent speed boosting lets it outrun and use Explosion against fast threats like Starmie, Sceptile, and Raikou.
  • (make new bullet point, as these are no longer slashed) Silk Scarf boosts the raw power of Gengar's Explosion's power and Charcoal helps with KOing boosts Fire Punch so it can KO Metagross alongside another super-effective move like Latias' Hidden Power Fire.
  • as menial as it feels, it is proper to bring up the difference between timid and hasty and when to opt for one over the other as they're slashed.

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[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Ice Punch
move 2: Fire Punch
move 3: Explosion / Thunderbolt
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry / Salac Berry
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Gengar's high Speed and excellent offensive coverage make it an excellent you missed this part on May's qc implementation, fix again (replace with different superlative) revenge killer, while its access to this as well, imo, unless you decided not to Explosion and Destiny Bond make it a threat that commands respect at all stages of the game. Its immunities to Earthquake and Explosion make it a safe switch-in add the hyphen too to all of the metagame's strongest spread moves.
  • Ice Punch hits Latias and Zapdos super effectively, while hitting most of the rest of the metagame for decent chip damage. Fire Punch is useful for hitting the omnipresent Metagross. This can be used in tandem with a partner's attack like Thunderbolt from Zapdos and Raikou or Hydro Pump from Starmie to remove Metagross before it gets a chance to move.
  • Explosion is a very high risk but high reward option, as even with Gengar's low attack stat it does well over 75% to most neutral hits. Targets? Thunderbolt gives Gengar a stronger neutral attack and a way to hit Water-types without using Explosion.
  • Destiny Bond is excellent for punishing attacks that Gengar often draws in due to the threat of Explosion and its weak defenses.
  • Gengar can run a variety of other moves in niche scenarios, including Giga Drain or Hidden Power Grass for Tyranitar and Swampert, Psychic for opposing Gengar, Skill Swap to give partners Levitate, Rain Dance or Sunny Day for weather setups, or Will-O-Wisp to burn physical attackers without a Lum Berry. However, these moves either have limited use cases or only work on specific team setups.
  • As a lead it's recommended to pair Gengar with teammates like Metagross and Swampert that deter Tyranitar from freely using Dragon Dance. Gengar also becomes dangerous in the back, as it can find weakened Pokemon to pick off with its coverage options.
  • Lum Berry will give Gengar a one-time buffer from the common Thunder Wave, making it the most commonly useful item. Salac Berry does get activated often as most strong neutral hits come just shy of KOing Gengar, and the subsequent Speed boost lets it outrun and use Explosion before faster Pokemon like Starmie, Sceptile, and Raikou before they can attack.
  • A very situational item, Silk Scarf boosts the raw power of Gengar's Explosion, and can be used with a Hasty Nature and 68 Attack EVs to OHKO 4 HP Latias. Similarly, Charcoal helps with KOing Metagross with Fire Punch in conjunction with something like Latias's Hidden Power Fire or Raikou's Thunderbolt, however, both of these items have very specific niches which make them hard to generally recommend.

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2/2 just some minor editing, excellent work, gp time!
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[SET]
name: Fast Attacker
move 1: Ice Punch
move 2: Fire Punch
move 3: Explosion / Thunderbolt
move 4: Destiny Bond
item: Lum Berry / Salac Berry
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Gengar's high Speed and excellent offensive coverage make it a proficient revenge killer, while its Explosion and Destiny Bond command respect at all stages of the game. Its immunities to Earthquake and Explosion make it a safe switch-in to all of the metagame's strongest spread moves.
  • Ice Punch hits Latias and Zapdos super effectively (rc) while hitting most of the rest of the metagame for decent chip damage. Fire Punch is useful for hitting the omnipresent Metagross. This can be used in tandem with a partner's attack like Thunderbolt from Zapdos and Raikou or Hydro Pump from Starmie to remove Metagross before it gets a chance to move.
  • Explosion is a very high risk but high reward option, as even with Gengar's low attack stat, (ac) it does well over 75% to most neutral targets. Thunderbolt gives Gengar a stronger neutral attack and a way to hit Water-types without using Explosion.
  • Destiny Bond is excellent for punishing attacks that Gengar often draws in due to the threat of Explosion and its weak defenses.
  • Gengar can run a variety of other moves in niche scenarios (rc) including Giga Drain or Hidden Power Grass for Tyranitar and Swampert, Psychic for opposing Gengar, Skill Swap to give partners Levitate, Rain Dance or Sunny Day for weather setups, or Will-O-Wisp to burn physical attackers without a Lum Berry. However, these moves either have limited uses cases or only work on specific team setups.
  • As a lead, (ac) it's recommended to pair Gengar with teammates like Metagross and Swampert that deter Tyranitar from freely using Dragon Dance. Gengar also becomes dangerous in the back, as it can find weakened Pokemon to pick off with its coverage options.
  • Lum Berry will give Gengar a one-time buffer from the common Thunder Wave, making it the most commonly useful item. Salac Berry does get activated often as most strong neutral hits come just shy of KOing Gengar, and the subsequent Speed boost lets it outrun and use Explosion before faster Pokemon—like Starmie, Sceptile, and Raikou—can attack.
  • A very situational item, Silk Scarf boosts the raw power of Gengar's Explosion (rc) and can be used with a Hasty Nature and 68 Attack EVs to OHKO 4 HP Latias. Similarly, Charcoal helps with KOing Metagross with Fire Punch in conjunction with something like Latias's Hidden Power Fire or Raikou's Thunderbolt; (rc, add semicolon) however, both of these items have very specific niches, (ac) which makes them hard to generally recommend.

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