Pet Mod Clean Slate Micro 2

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:ss/virizion:
Name of the Pokemon: Virizion
Role(s): Stallbreaker, Trapping
Type: Steel / Grass
Abilities:
Justified / Sap Sipper | HA: Steely Spirit
Stat Distribution: 61 HP / 90 Atk / 86 Def / 70 SpA / 99 SpD / 88 Spe
Movepool Additions: Anchor Shot, Leech Seed, Taunt, Horn Leech
Movepool Removals: Close Combat
Justification: Earl had a snappy example for a role, and I knew I was planning on going Steel / Grass with this, so I decided to say fuck it! Virizion plays like a hybrid of Heatran, Ferrothorn and probably something else I dont know.

Pokemon: Eiscue
Roles: Setup Sweeper
Type:

Abilities:
Ice Face
Stats: 75 / 50 / 90 / 95 / 110 / 55 (475 BST)
Noice Stats: 75 / 50 / 50 / 95 / 70 / 135 (475 BST)
Movepool Additions: Flash Cannon, Nasty Plot, Knock Off
Justification: Eiscue's design space is pretty interesting, but it never really panned out due to its poor coverage, belly drum, and over-reliance on breaking Ice Face. I hope to fix these shortcomings by shifting to a special focus, with the more sustainable Nasty Plot and a secondary Steel-typing to give it a much needed survivability boost. I also swapped the defenses because, honestly, only Special Defense matters here. With this setup it should be able to get off Nasty Plots pretty consistently and threaten basically anything but Aegislash with just Freeze Dry/Flash Cannon/Hydro Pump. Balanced out by the aforementioned Aegislash, Chandelure before the ice breaks, and Pichu post-break.
Slate 7-Defense

1 Physical Wall
1 Special Wall
1 Mixed Wall
Free Slot
 

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:ss/sandaconda-gmax:
Name of the Pokemon: Sandaconda-Gmax
Role(s): Physical Wall, Paralysis, Burn, Rapid Spin, Stealth Rock
Type:

Abilities: Sand Spit, Shed Skin | No Guard
Stat Distribution: 75 / 60 / 125 / 110 / 70 / 80 | 520
Movepool Additions: Gust, Rapid Spin, Shore Up, Twister
Justification: CSM2 still has no Flying-type and only one Electric-immunity. Sandaconda-Gmax is a neat counter to Pichu and Solgaleo, and can checks the likes of Zangoose and Virizion. It brings a lot of utility with status spreading through Scorching Sands and Glare and hazard with Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin. It is quite keep to special attackers like Eiscue and Omastar, and needs to stay healthy to reliably beat Zangoose and Virizion due to not resisting their moves.
Sandaconda-Gmax @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Shed Skin / Sand Spit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scorching Sands / Hurricane
- Glare
- Shore Up
- Stealth Rock / Rapid Spin

:ss/lumineon:
Name of the Pokemon: Lumineon
Role(s): Special Wall, Defog, Pivot
Type:

Abilities: Thick Fat
Stat Distribution: 90 / 80 / 90 / 80 / 120 / 80 | 540
Movepool Additions: Roost, Whirlwind
Justification: Not gonna lie, I struggled a bit with this one. CSM2 would highly benefiate from a bulky Water to check the likes of Eiscue, Chandelure, and Carracosta. The Water-Bug typing combined with Thick Fat was the only one I could come up with to deal with all these threats. It succeeds to resist Fire, Water, Ice, and Steel, while not being weak to Freeze-Dry and Dark Pulse, letting it handle the threats it was meant to. Bug can seem like an awful secondary typing to have, but it brings some useful resistances and also lets Lumineon threaten Carracosta. I considered the Fairy-typing, but it would have made Lumineon to similar to Komala. Overall, Lumineon is extremely bulky and can handle most special attackers, however it is easy to cripple due to no way to play around status and being easily forced out by Knock Off due to its hazard weakness. Its quite underwhelming offensive stats, also mean it is not so hard to play around.
Lumineon @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Roost
- Defog
- Scald
- U-turn / Whirlwind

:ss/breloom:
Name of the Pokemon: Breloom
Role(s): Mixed Wall, Knock Off, Sleep
Type:

Abilities: Effect Spore | Immunity
Stat Distribution: 65 / 90 / 110 / 90 / 130 / 105 | 590
Movepool Additions: Body Press, Knock Off, Seismic Toss, Strength Sap
Justification: Tangrowth's typing lets it blanket check most attackers including Carracosta, Pichu, and Virizion. It can also make progress with Knock Off, Spore, and Effect Spore. That said it's typing leaves it quite weak to status and Fire-types like Zangoose and Chandelure, as well as other threats like Komala, Aegislash, and Solgaleo.
Breloom @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Effect Spore / Immunity
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Impish Nature
- Strength Sap
- Body Press / Giga Drain
- Knock Off
- Spore

:ss/onix:
Name of the Pokemon: Onix
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker, Offensive Stealth Rock
Type:

Abilities: Sturdy, Weak Armor | Adaptability
Stat Distribution: 70 / 75 / 140 / 85 / 70 / 120 | 560
Movepool Additions: Clanging Scales, Draco Meteor, Outrage, Power Gem, Scale Shot, U-turn
Justification: We got no Dragon- nor Rock-type, hence making Onix a very unique threat able to threaten offense but struggling into bulkier Pokemon such as Komala and Aegislash. It also makes for an offensive check to Zangoose and Chandelure, something offensive teams seem to struggle to fit.
Onix @ Power Herb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Meteor Beam
- Clanging Scales
- Power Gem
- Earth Power

Onix @ Choice Specs
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Clanging Scales
- Power Gem
- Earth Power
- U-turn

Onix @ Eject Pack
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Clanging Scales
- Power Gem
- Taunt
 
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:ss/dragapult:
Name of the Pokemon: Dragapult
Role(s): Physical Wall, Defensive Pivot, Hazard Control (Defog)
Type:

Abilities: Cursed Body / Infiltrator
Stat Distribution: 88 / 75 / 100 / 75 / 80 / 112 | 530
Movepool Additions: Hurricane, Air Slash, Air Cutter, Defog, Pain Split
Movepool Removals: all Dragon-type moves, Fire Blast, Hydro Pump, Thunder, Thunderbolt
Justification: effective fast wall due to its pretty good matchups against most of the physical attackers so far (besides carracosta and qwilfish). has a lot of versatility in its movepool but lacks reliable recovery or a particularly noteworthy ability.

:ss/kingdra:
Name of the Pokemon: Kingdra
Role(s): Special Wall, Defensive Pivot, Special Wallbreaker, Hazard Control (Defog)
Type:

Abilities: Storm Drain / Sniper
Stat Distribution: 75 / 90 / 75 / 90 / 105 / 85 | 520
Movepool Additions: Acrobatics, Air Slash, Air Cutter, Defog, Roost, Incinerate, Darkest Lariat
Movepool Removals: Hydro Pump
Justification: being a special fire resist with recovery is good, as is being a defogger. has a niche sniper set too. has an even nicher dragon dance set too.

:ss/phione:
Name of the Pokemon: Phione
Role(s): Mixed Wall, Defensive Pivot
Type:

Abilities: Natural Cure / Regenerator
Stat Distribution: 80 / 80 / 80 / 80 / 80 / 80 | 480
Movepool Additions: Heart Swap, Haze
Justification: can use heart swap or vest sets to be an effective pivot with regen. but having 80 in all stats is pretty mediocre.

:ss/rhydon:
Name of the Pokemon: Rhydon (eviolite compatible)
Role(s): Physical Wallbreaker, Hazard Setter (Stealth Rock)
Type:

Abilities: Bulletproof / Mold Breaker
Stat Distribution: 105 / 110 / 100 / 65 / 65 / 30 | 475
Justification: rhydon. hits almost everything in the meta for se damage and has quite good bulk but is abysmally slow and hit easily se.
 

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:swsh/natu:
Natu (not Eviolite compatible)

Pressure / Magic Bounce
60/65/70/85/100/80 (465 BST)
Special Wall, Hazard Remover, Status Blocker, Stallbreaker
+Knock Off, +Taunt, -U-Turn, -Teleport
I LOVE MAGIC BOUNCE!!! Mon resists koff and is a flyer while also covering some Roles w defog and Magic Bounce. Its spd is pgood too!

:swsh/throh:
Throh

Mold Breaker / Regenerator
70/90/120/50/60/70 (460 BST)
Physical Wall
+Recover, +Stealth Rock, -Knock Off

:swsh/sizzlipede:
Sizzlipede (Eviolite compatible)

Flash Fire / Sticky Hold
70/90/70/80/65/75 (450 BST)
Free Slot
+Attack Order, +Dragon Dance
 
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:ss/Ariados:
Name of the Pokemon: Ariados
Role(s): Physical Wall, Hazard Setter (Toxic Spikes)
Type:

Abilities: Poison Touch / Insomnia | HA: Poison Point
Stat Distribution: 84 / 83 / 117 / 63 / 67 / 114 | 528
Movepool Additions: Knock Off, Pain Split, Gunk Shot, Spiky Shield
Movepool Removals: Sticky Web, Memento, Bug Buzz, Megahorn
Justification: Ariados's main function is to be a fastish physically defensive wall that can cripple offensive Pokémon with Toxic and Knock Off, and force chip via Spiky Shield. If one would like, it can also set up Toxic Spikes to annoy opposing forces.

:ss/Talonflame:
Name of the Pokemon: Talonflame
Role(s): Mixed Wall, Hazard Control (Defog), Priority?? (Hurricane?)
Type:

Abilities: Flame Body | HA: Gale Wings
Stat Distribution: 126 / 81 / 59 / 76 / 71 / 73 | 486
Movepool Additions: Lava Plume
Movepool Removals: U-Turn
Justification: Talonflame stats got swapped around and now pulls off the defensive utility roles it does in lower tiers, albeit with the caveat of sacrificing U-turn. It instead leans more into spreading status between Lava Plume + Flame Body and Toxic.
 

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Name:

Abilities: Natural Cure | HA: Sticky Hold
Stats:
45/60/90/80/140/50 - 465 BST
Movepool Additions: Doom Desire, Steel Beam, Flash Cannon
Movepool Removals: Hurricane, Air Slash
Justification:
WIP - Special Wall

:magneton: - Eviolite Compatable

Abilities: Magnet Pull / Sap Sipper | HA: Electric Surge
Stats: 90/75/100/80/50/50 - 445 BST
Movepool Additions: Earth Power, Thousand Waves
Movepool Removals: Steel Beam
Justification:
WIP - Physical Wall

:furfrou-pharaoh:

Ability: Regenerator
155/60/65/50/75/70 - 475 BST
Movepool Additions: Draco Meteor, Breaking Swipe, Scale Shot
Movepool Removals: Cotton Guard
WIP - Mixed Wall

:castform-snowy:

Abilities: Compound Eyes | HA: Huge Power
55/50/50/91/70/135 - 451 BST
Movepool Additions: Icicle Crash, Shell Side Arm, Toxic Spikes
Movepool Removals: None
WIP - Free Slot
 
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:ss/relicanth:
Name of the Pokemon: Relicanth
Role(s): Physical Wall, Defensive Pivot, Stealth Rock
Type:

Abilities: Sticky Hold
Stat Distribution: 68 / 70 / 137 / 85 / 79 / 61 | 500
Movepool Additions: Recover, Flip Turn
Justification: Handles Carracosta and Zangoose with sheer bulk and Body Press. Provides solid support with Stealth Rock and pivoting.


:ss/gourgeist:
Name of the Pokemon: Gourgeist
Role(s): Special Wall, Defog, Cleric
Type:

Abilities: Heatproof
Stat Distribution: 75 / 75 / 75 / 95 / 130 / 55 | 505
Movepool Additions: Recover, Aromatherapy, Defog, Earth Power, Scorching Sands,
Justification: Handles Chandelure, Eiscue, and special variants of Carracosta.


:ss/camerupt:
Name of the Pokemon: Camerupt
Role(s): Mixed Wall, Stealth Rock
Type:

Abilities: Solid Rock
Stat Distribution: 80 / 90 / 100 / 85 / 100 / 55 | 510
Movepool Additions: Milk Drink
Justification: Handles Chandelure and Pichu very well. Its offenses are just high enough to kill Eiscue with Lava Plume and Zangoose with Earthquake. Can set Stealth Rock, or if that is already covered, would be very good at spreading Toxic.

:ss/delibird:
Name of the Pokemon: Delibird
Role(s): Offensive Pivot, Spikes,
Type:

Abilities: Magic Guard
Stat Distribution: 80 / 75 / 55 / 70 / 50 / 120 | 460
Movepool Additions: U-turn, Encore
Movepool Removals: Destiny Bond,
Justification: Magic Guard allows free use of Life Orb, and with strong STABs Brave Bird and Triple Axel, this hits harder than you might think. It gets some other coverage moves like Drill Run, Gunk Shot, and Seed Bomb, as well as support moves like Spikes, Rapid Spin, and Defog.
 
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Alright, we're actually gonna roll this over into gen 9 come this friday. Voting will end then, and we will immediately have a revisions slate to update the existing mons to work within the current generation mechanics. I'm preemptively banning Tera because I know its gonna be broke and I don't like it.

my votes:
:Skarmory: Mintly, Moretto, anaconja
:Blissey: Tuthur, Anaconja, Scoopapa
:Amoonguss: G-Luke, Moretto, Mintly
:Mew: Tuthur, anaconja, Scoopapa
 
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Physical Wall: Tuthur, G-Luke, Moretto
Special Wall: anaconja, Scoopapa, Moretto
Mixed Wall: Scoopapa, G-Luke, Mintly
Free Slot: anaconja, Moretto, Scoopapa
 
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:magneton: - Eviolite Compatable

Abilities: Magnet Pull / Sap Sipper | HA: Electric Surge
Stats: 90/75/100/80/50/50 - 445 BST
Movepool Additions: Earth Power, Thousand Waves
Movepool Removals: Steel Beam
Justification:
WIP - Physical Wall
:ss/lumineon:
Name of the Pokemon: Lumineon
Role(s): Special Wall, Defog, Pivot
Type:

Abilities: Thick Fat
Stat Distribution: 90 / 80 / 90 / 80 / 120 / 80 | 540
Movepool Additions: Roost, Whirlwind
Justification: Not gonna lie, I struggled a bit with this one. CSM2 would highly benefiate from a bulky Water to check the likes of Eiscue, Chandelure, and Carracosta. The Water-Bug typing combined with Thick Fat was the only one I could come up with to deal with all these threats. It succeeds to resist Fire, Water, Ice, and Steel, while not being weak to Freeze-Dry and Dark Pulse, letting it handle the threats it was meant to. Bug can seem like an awful secondary typing to have, but it brings some useful resistances and also lets Lumineon threaten Carracosta. I considered the Fairy-typing, but it would have made Lumineon to similar to Komala. Overall, Lumineon is extremely bulky and can handle most special attackers, however it is easy to cripple due to no way to play around status and being easily forced out by Knock Off due to its hazard weakness. Its quite underwhelming offensive stats, also mean it is not so hard to play around.
Lumineon @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Roost
- Defog
- Scald
- U-turn / Whirlwind
:ss/Talonflame:
Name of the Pokemon: Talonflame
Role(s): Mixed Wall, Hazard Control (Defog), Priority?? (Hurricane?)
Type:

Abilities: Flame Body | HA: Gale Wings
Stat Distribution: 126 / 81 / 59 / 76 / 71 / 73 | 486
Movepool Additions: Lava Plume
Movepool Removals: U-Turn
Justification: Talonflame stats got swapped around and now pulls off the defensive utility roles it does in lower tiers, albeit with the caveat of sacrificing U-turn. It instead leans more into spreading status between Lava Plume + Flame Body and Toxic.
:ss/onix:
Name of the Pokemon: Onix
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker, Offensive Stealth Rock
Type:

Abilities: Sturdy, Weak Armor | Adaptability
Stat Distribution: 70 / 75 / 140 / 85 / 70 / 120 | 560
Movepool Additions: Clanging Scales, Draco Meteor, Outrage, Power Gem, Scale Shot, U-turn
Justification: We got no Dragon- nor Rock-type, hence making Onix a very unique threat able to threaten offense but struggling into bulkier Pokemon such as Komala and Aegislash. It also makes for an offensive check to Zangoose and Chandelure, something offensive teams seem to struggle to fit.
Onix @ Power Herb
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Meteor Beam
- Clanging Scales
- Power Gem
- Earth Power

Onix @ Choice Specs
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Clanging Scales
- Power Gem
- Earth Power
- U-turn

Onix @ Eject Pack
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Clanging Scales
- Power Gem
- Taunt
All right, that's cool and all, but we're moving this mod into gen 9! While it will be staying micro for now, there's a lot of stuff to review and change. Not gonna carry over movepool updates because that would invalidate a fair number of subs for no reason.
:solrock: - Dauntless Shield only triggers once per game. Is a compensation buff necessary?
:Komala: Gained Gunk Shot and Ice Spinner (80 BP Ice, removes terrain). Doesn't seem particularly concerning.
:Qwilfish: Now that Hisuian Qwilfish is in a mainline game, do we want to change it to that mon? Or Overqwil? Ema Skye your call
:Eiscue: Hail has been cut, now we have snowstorm. Instead of chip it gives Ice-types boosted Defense.
:Magneton: Can we update this to Sandy Shocks lol. Also this gets Voltage which is a little insane? Might remove that
Everything gets Tera Blast, I guess?

Those are the only mechanically notable changes outside of the universal recovery nerf I think. For this next short slate, I'll make it an open form submission style for generation updates. Think something could use a new move? Want to distribute a fitting ability? Suggest it below, and once we've collected a few ideas we'll y/n vote on what was submitted to implement the changes for a new gen.

Also on the voting block with be Tera. Do we want that or not lol
 
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Changes made (aesthetic only):
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Slate 9-Finishing Touches

1Stallbreaker
Free Slot
+
Tera Legality Vote

This should bring us to 19 mons, which leaves 1 slot left to add whatever the metagame needs after playtested. Lets goooo
 
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Name: Iron Jugulis
Roles: Stallbreaker, Special Wallbreaker, Setup Sweeper, Hazard Control, Electric Terrain Abuser
Type:

Abilities:
Quark Drive / Infiltrator | Electromorphosis
Stat Distribution: 104 / 92 / 66 / 112 / 80 / 76 (530 BST)
Movepool Additions: Swords Dance, Dual Wingbeat, Draco Meteor, Dragon Claw, Superpower, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Wild Charge, Defog, Recover
Movepool Removals: Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Fire Blast, Heat Wave, Earth Power, U-Turn
Justification: Has the tried-and-true Taunt+Recovery+Power combo that makes a great stallbreaker. Dragon/Flying has a fair amount of defensive utility against the many of the wallbreakers in this meta, and the combo specifically checks Sandy Shock's Rising Voltages decently well. It also pairs with the fellow Paradox pretty well, getting a nice offensive boost from the terrain. Removed U-Turn and special coverage against Steels to ensure it has some opportunity cost while giving it Defog and Roost to ensure it holds a niche over Onix (who looks insane for the record).
Special (Iron Jugulis) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Electromorphosis
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hurricane
- Thunderbolt
- Taunt
- Recover

Swords Dance (Iron Jugulis) @ Heavy-Duty Boots / Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dual Wingbeat
- Knock Off / Superpower / Outrage
- Swords Dance
- Roost

Utility (Iron Jugulis) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Quark Drive / Infiltrator
EVs: 160 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Knock Off
- Defog
- Roost


Name: Wo-Chien
Roles: Physical Wall, Special Wallbreaker, Setup Sweeper, Stallbreaker
Type:

Abilities:
Tablets of Ruin | Beads of Ruin
Stat Distribution: 85 / 50 / 100 / 95 / 75 / 95 (500 BST)
Movepool Additions: Synthesis, Stealth Rock, Nasty Plot, Frost Breath
Justification: Thanks to its statline and abilities, Wo-Chien is either a very fat physical wall or a decently threatening special attacker. While Beads Nasty Plot sets struggle with Steels, it has the dark coverage to at least threaten Aegislash and can generally wear down non-Virizion steels over time with Leech Seed or just blasting off Leaf Storms. For Tablet wall sets, Knock Off and Stealth Rock should be enough utility to justify it as a particularly sturdy Carracosta answer.
Physical Wall (Wo-Chien) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Tablets of Ruin
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off / Stun Spore
- Stealth Rock
- Synthesis

Wallbreaker (Wo-Chien) @ Miracle Seed
Ability: Beads of Ruin
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Energy Ball
- Frost Breath / Dark Pulse
- Nasty Plot
- Synthesis / Taunt
 

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