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Resource BW Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread
- Thread starter Finchinator
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A lot of people on the outside are ignorant and think weather wars are an overly defining characteristic that is repetitive, but in reality they seldom define games and aren’t as linear as claimed.
BW is an interesting case because it’s the first generation with team preview and it comes alongside a large general power creep and the weather distribution, so a lot of people naturally took and still take exception to it. This coupled with Aldaron‘s infamous proposal and clouded tiering decisions during the main generation left us playing a decade of catch-up since then, which has also left the tier to be dragged through the muds of public ridicule.
In reality, it’s a hectic and proactive, but enjoyable, metagame that certainly isn’t one of the worst in my eyes.
What’s up next on the chopping block? Gems were banned a few months back, I’d reckon the meta games settled down and adapted since. What’re we testing next boys?
Nothing is currently on the radar, but we will likely resume talks after SPL, the ongoing tournament including BW OU, to see if people find anything pressing.
When’s SPL end? I feel like it’s been going on for a MINUTE
2-4 week depending on tiebreaks.
Why did sleep take so long to be banned? Did y’all just not realize the sleep timer was funky? Or was it a point of contention banning it?
Sleep was not a priority when we had a slew of other things to sort after BW became an old generation. Keep in mind that old generation tiering didn’t exist until decently far into generation 6 itself, we had things like Shadow Tag, Arena Trap, and speed-weather abilities to tackle, and sleep varied in both usage and counterplay over a number of more volatile metagame states along the way.
The first time anyone seriously brought up sleep, it got looked at and banned, which started with the dice PR thread a couple of years back. It wasn’t deemed pressing prior to that and really only became pressing as the metagame settled to a point where Sleep Talk roulette determined interactions and foddering things to soak sleep had to be commonplace.
Suspect test eligibility in past gens is based on tournament performances. If you want to vote in past gens suspect tests, you have to get good results in a set number of past gens tournaments.
I would recommend going through the resources here https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...-and-bw-metagame-resources-directory.3686881/
Also recommend joining the BW Discord where people are more than willing to give advice for teambuilding https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bw-community-discord.3686882/
thank you so much! i appreciate it
I get in some past gens tournaments, but I just lose all battles!
So, I guess I rly can't vote, but if I could I would suspect a lot of bans!
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/gems-in-bw-ou.3703711/I get in some past gens tournaments, but I just lose all battles!
So, I guess I rly can't vote, but if I could I would suspect a lot of bans!
See post 14 of this thread for exact details on the suspect test voting requirements.
Is there a thread somewhere on the forum here where I could read up on lando I and thundo I’s bans? Im tryna get some kind of edumucated opinion on the two
Torn T also
you can use this article to find all the BW bans when it was the current gen OU https://www.smogon.com/tiers/ou/ban_history
my only problem there is that that list caps out at 2013, there’s been 10 years of band and metagame development since. Is there a more recent post?
These things were banned back then and not reintroduced since, so there’s not much more to say as it’s a closed case.
I’m just lookin for a timeline g, tryna learn more abt the history of the meta
This link below is part of the closed forums for BW back when it was current. The layout of the old forum looks like a disaster but you can probably find stuff here if you filter through a bit.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/bw-ou.203/
Is there a page somewhere here on the forums where I can look at the discussions and shit that lead up to gems’s ban?