ADV Cup VIII - Quarterfinals

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ADV Cup

The best generation, now with even less BP this time, we promise.

Tournament Rules:
  • General tournament rules and regulations can be found here.
  • Smogon Classic rules can be read here
  • Standard ADV OU
  • Best of three, single elimination.
  • Battles should take place on Pokemon Showdown!
  • Do not make baseless activity posts -- get in contact with your opponent and report missed times / scheduling issues only.
This is just a small snippet of the full rules, which one can find here!

Identity

About playing on alts: It is entirely allowed to play on an alt other than your own main forum name, though if your opponent wishes to confirm your identity, you must log on to your main alt to show them you are who you claim to be. This is to prevent people from pretending to be who they're not.

About playing on different servers: Tournament matches must be played on the Smogtours server. The Main PS! server is also acceptable if both parties agree to that. Other servers are not sanctioned by the TD team and playing in them might result in your game not counting. Protect yourself from that by playing in Smogtours, where we also have the power to recreate games that end due to DC's.

Scouting

On scouting opponents: Going through your opponents replays of tournament and ladder games is entirely allowed, as long as a game is public there is nothing preventing you from watching it. An exception to this is abusing powers granted to you by being staff on Smogon or PS! to gain access to information a normal user wouldn't have access to, which is strictly forbidden.

On leaking teams: Divulging private information about someone's planned team to their opponent is never allowed, and will be heavily sanctioned. Requesting that such information be divulged is also grounds for punishment. Keep your scouting to publicly available information and you'll be fine.

Timer Clause / Disconnections

On the Timer: The timer must stay on throughout the whole battle..

On Timeout losses: A player that loses by having all his time run out loses the game. This is only not the case if the player that received the timeout loss can be verified to have suffered a True Disconnection. Rematches are only allowed if there was a True Disconnection.

On True Disconnection: The TD team has a secret threshold of seconds that your timer must be at or above, from the moment you disconnect, for a timeout loss to be considered a True disconnection. If your game is determined to be a true disconnection if you played on Smogtours and contacted a TD before the room expired your game will be recreated up to the point the disconnect happened. It is the responsibility of the player that disconnected to get a TD into the room before it expires.

Battle Clauses:
  • Evasion Clause
  • OHKO Clause
  • Sleep Clause
  • Species Clause
  • Freeze Clause
  • Timed Battle
  • Baton Pass Clause: Teams are limited to 1 form of stat-boosting alongside Baton Pass across the whole team. Mean Look/Spider Web/Block + Baton Pass is also disallowed.
Round 7

TDK  vs  bruno
Luigi  vs  sensei axew
Myzozoa  vs  Triangles
Pohjis  vs  Kerts

Deadline is Sunday September 4th, 2022 at 11:59 PM GMT-4! Deadline for extensions is Wednesday August 31th, 2022 at 11:59 PM GMT-4. Contact your opponent ASAP.

REPLAYS ARE REQUIRED
 
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bruno

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me and tdk played, i ff`d g3 t2 from a crit bc i thought it`d be a loss and also thought i didn`t wanna give scout for callous and only joined cup for practice, turns out its tourbannable which is fair enough. GGs Gl to people remaining.
 
Not a cause big enough for a PR thread, but 3 months is really harsh for an honest mistake. He forfeited in the heat of the moment due to a crit (frankly people have done far worse over hax) forgetting it to be a tourbannable offense and is clearly remorseful. Not to mention the game could also just easily be recreated and finished from the FF turn as an alternative solution. I propose that just a ban from next adv cup/classic is more than enough of a punishment for an upstanding community member like Bruno
 

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you guys should seriously rethink how you structure and do your bans

this shit is just pure nonsensical banning for the sole purpose of "adhering to the rules".

why even have the option to forfeit if its bankable? One should be able to forfeit whenever one wants if the option is there (example: irl shit comes up, or i think I lost, etc.).

also who the fuck determines if a game forfeit is a throw or not? what are the parameters? is it just up to your discretion? kinda arbitrary and feels like you guys are just banning whenever you feel like it.

this adv cup saw 2 dumb bans already and you guys know that you hit the wrong people. instead of banning cheaters you go after people who toe the line and have good intent.

that is usually why we have judges irl so they can check the offense and decide on a punishment (or even the neccessity of any) and not just blindly apply the law like a robot.
you guys go full robot all the time and forget to use your human side. at this pt just automize bans/punishments. not like you guys are any different than an automated system.

such weird bans.
 
i have a proposed solution to prevent both linear and anti cases in the future

linear case: offer rng education handbook to all new smogon joins, embracing its existence and not feeling sorry about it

anti case: if a player attempts to forfeit, have a popup message that says “are you sure you want to forfeit? this may be considered throwing”

i believe both of these would increase the integrity of our tours
 
i have a proposed solution to prevent both linear and anti cases in the future

linear case: offer rng education handbook to all new smogon joins, embracing its existence and not feeling sorry about it

anti case: if a player attempts to forfeit, have a popup message that says “are you sure you want to forfeit? this may be considered throwing”

i believe both of these would increase the integrity of our tours
The anti solution genuinely seems like a good idea.
 
me and tdk played, i ff`d g3 t2 from a crit bc i thought it`d be a loss and also thought i didn`t wanna give scout for callous and only joined cup for practice, turns out its tourbannable which is fair enough. GGs Gl to people remaining.
bros how is forfeiting a game you think is very likely to be a loss banable? if this is the case please ban everybody who forfeits an rby game
henceforth
 
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