Reasoning:
Necrozma has been on the rise ever since the Zygarde-Complete ban with new sets beginning to see use on ladder such as Power Herb, Choice Band, and Dragon Dance. These sets allowed Necrozma to counter what were previously seen as checks such as Volcarona and Hydreigon, but going into PL the question was whether or not these sets were actually going to be used. A few weeks into PL it is safe to say that these sets have been seeing use, and some new sets such as Toxic stall Necrozma have emerged as well. This leaves Necrozma with very few ultra consistent counters such as Urshifu and Moltres-Galar which in a team tour environment such as PL, makes building increasingly difficult as players try to balance between avoiding being repetitive while building and consistently beating Necrozma. We have even seen an increase in usage of previously thought of as unviable pokemon like Krookodile and Umbreon as an attempt to find new and creative ways of handling Necrozma. As such, it was decided that something had to be done about Necrozma, and in order to keep it from impacting PL more than it needs to the council decided to quickban Necrozma.
That being said, Necrozma is not a perfect pokemon. Many of its matchups are set dependent as we have seen with it losing to things you would expect it to beat multiple times this PL such as Volcanion and Tapu Koko. So while Necrozma has the ability to beat almost everything, it can only cover so much in a single set. It also has a variety of somewhat reliable checks that beat most sets such as Tyranitar and Togekiss which if used together can cover all sets with set guessing. This is why many people are also opposed to a hard quickban. For this reason, the council decided to also suspect test Necrozma for a potential unban as well.
For this suspect test, we will be using the regular 1v1 ladder, so you must create a new account that begins with 1NEC to qualify. Necrozma will be legal on the ladder. The Deadline for the Necrozma Suspect is Thursday, March 10th, 11:59 PM EST (GMT -5)
This suspect shall be reusing the sliding scale system from the prior suspects, being:
| GXE | Minimum Games |
| 75 | 50 |
| 75.3 | 49 |
| 75.6 | 48 |
| 75.9 | 47 |
| 76.2 | 46 |
| 76.5 | 45 |
| 76.8 | 44 |
| 77.1 | 43 |
| 77.4 | 42 |
| 77.7 | 41 |
| 78 | 40 |
| 78.3 | 39 |
| 78.6 | 38 |
| 78.9 | 37 |
| 79.2 | 36 |
| 79.5 | 35 |
As always the normal rules of suspect tests apply. Disallowed behaviors include things like boosting other accounts, attempting to vote with multiple accounts, intentionally losing against suspect participants, coercing an opponent to lose, playing games in a voice call, sharing accounts, and trading/buying/selling/giving away suspect ladder accounts. Cheating will not be tolerated and anyone caught cheating will be disqualified and potentially infracted.
You must use a fresh account registered after the posting of this thread for your reqs. This alt must begin with 1NEC, e.g. 1NEC smely
Additionally, we will be implementing a procedure used by other tiers where suspect reqs will be verified by the 1v1 Tier Leaders / subforum moderators. With this in mind:
- DO NOT LOAD UP MORE GAMES AFTER GETTING REQS UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN VERIFIED!
- Once verified, your post will be edited with you being notified of the verification.
- If you load up more games before being verified and end up losing your qualifying GXE, your post will be deleted and you will have to qualify again.
When posting in this thread, please keep in mind these rules:
1. No one liners or uninformed posts
2. No discussion on other potential suspects or the suspect process
3. Be respectful
Your post will be deleted and possibly infracted if you fail to follow them. Have fun!
Also tagging Kris in case anything needs to be implemented. Since Necrozma will stay legal on ladder the banlist is fine as is
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needs to run fake out + charge for ok rolls.
unless its obese you're in the clear
the goat av set
pressure stall
pressure stall
its a dark type weak to necrozma's coverage
dark type
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I don't believe in hard mu fishing for zarude only with x-scizzor, waste of a slot.
(timid specs), I don't believe in av necrozma, though custap perhaps can cheese, but its purely theoretical.
needs specific and extensive EV-ing with an AV.
maranga wins until necrozma starts running fast sub on meteor beam.
noble roar wins right. Idk what u do vs sd but just bank on no one running that.
you need to sack the pokemon, standard sets lose to meteor beam and life orb necroma or psyshock.
now this is a tricky matchup but most any brick break necrozma should do well against it, I've even seen mixed specs sets. Even chople counter can lose to SD life orb necrozma.
loses to psyshock LOL. a weird mu depending on bulk/speed/items.
meteor beam LOL, gn.
loses to life orb unless you get 8 50/50s in a row correct, and can mispredict versus band and dragon dance and pay a huge price.
gm power gem and meteor beam + earth power.
as has been seen in tour u get rock blasted by band, and even meteor beam necrozma wins vs it.
prism armor is balanced and modest specs is rolls vs bulky variants.
LOL, between sub, psyshock, cm life orb, gg sylveon
cm life orb just wins