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    Resource SV UU DLC 2 Viability Rankings- Update at Post #85

    While I get how this set works, if I really need a spinblocker that always beats Treads and Garg, why not use Sinischa? Obviously they're very different Pokemon, since Gengar is fast and hits hard. But Sinischa's 121 SpA ain't nothing. Doesn't need to run air balloon either to do its job...
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    Resource SV UU DLC 2 Viability Rankings- Update at Post #85

    This has confused me even further. Best spinbocker when it's weak to the primary stab of the most common spinner? Who is straight up immune to its secondary stab? And good into Garg, who resists both of its stabs? Is its viability based entirely on the ability to hit focus blast?
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    Metagame Views From The Council

    I support removing sleep clause mod in its current iteration as Showdown should not have non cart-accurate play. It's such a blatant outlier to the rule, and the fact it has remained in place comes more down to resistance to change. Such a clause would never have been implemented today. However...
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    Metagame SV UU Metagame Discussion - The Indigo Disk

    "Demolished by Zapdos" is pretty generous for a mon that at best leaves Garchomp on 50% health, that Garchomp doesn't even activate static on. Your counter needs absolute max defence to not get OHKO, does maybe 50% back, and doesn't stop it getting to +2 +1. That's not a counter by any stretch...
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    Metagame SV UU Metagame Discussion - The Indigo Disk

    Weak to Moth? Moth can't switch in, and you can just...switch out and now Moth doesn't have booster anymore. Also you resist its stabs. Even if it goes tera fairy dazzling gleam with booster speed, you get this: 132 SpA Tera Fairy Iron Moth Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 290-344...
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    Metagame SV UU Metagame Discussion - The Indigo Disk

    Why would you need to use stone edge? Zapdos is setup fodder. Click swords dance as it misses a hurricane, then click scale shot and watch it drop. I've honestly been kinda baffled that I'm the only one who thinks Garchomp is banworthy. This isn't even me being a bad team builder and losing to...
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    Metagame SV UU Metagame Discussion - The Indigo Disk

    OK this was max hp Iron Hands behind reflect versus scarf, but still, it's a Gapdos brave bird. There's something just so inherently silly about the way Iron Hands just sits there and kills stuff effortlessly. Anyways, for the current slate: :iron-hands: The only thing I think is currently QB...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    It's funny how much of a difference using am actually good team does to your SR. I was fuzting about in the 1400s using trick room. Why? Firstly because Deoxys-D :deoxys-defense: is a neat trick room setter due to trick room, teleport, and hazards for role compression. And secondly because...
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    SV UU Metagame Discussion - Teal Mask Edition

    So we're just gonna ignore that a council member made a mistake and Ceruledge shouldn't have been banned? OK then. Continued playing the tier, dropping a bunch more impressions on various mons. :garganacl: The more I play, the more I think this is banworthy. A lot of the standard anti-stall...
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    SV UU Metagame Discussion - Teal Mask Edition

    As a certified Garg user, probably the hardest counter is Amoongus, who sits on it and heals off with giga drain, all while being able to regen off any salt cure chip. I could see Mienshao working in a similar vein. Also as the person above me said, Matcha Gatcha is a much better mon than I gave...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    You know half of these are nonsense. Heavy duty boots Pelipper is a lol. Sun and snow are far better and more prevelant now than gen 7, interfering with rain. "It can tera into its own type" applies to literally every offensive mon. Mantine was a highly niche pick for defensive teams. The...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    I must admit to being baffled at this seemingly universal agreement that Manaphy is busted. How have the surroundings changed so much from gen 7 that it's now busted? It's a stall and balance breaker that struggles against offence and oh would you look at that, offence is king this generation...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Just a quick reminder for you all that court change steals that Aurora Veil and Cinderace can 1hko Alolatales, in case you're wondering how to deal with all the new veil usage.
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Ah your returning list of Pokemon appear to be missing Shaymin Sky and Darkrai. How curious, perhaps you could add them? yes I know they almost certainly get banned but fuck it I don't think Darkrai is any more powerful than Valiant and apparently that thing is fine
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    SV UU Metagame Discussion

    If you want another mon that can make good use of flinging their chicken nuggie, let me introduce you to a draft league special: Fling Quaquaval Chicken Nugget (Quaquaval) @ Big Nugget Ability: Moxie Tera Type: Water EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Fling - Aqua Step...
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    We're up in draft league. I'm only really free this weekend. I'm EU time, what time suits you?

    We're up in draft league. I'm only really free this weekend. I'm EU time, what time suits you?
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    Draft League Summer Seasonal 2023 - Signups [CLOSED]

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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    IoA Cinderace ban was because it had protean released. If Volcarona had just got protean, people would feel very differently about a quickban, because it's something new. But Volcarona did not get anything new. So it shouldn't have been quickbanned. I'm honestly shocked people are having...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    My impression was that quickbans were for when something new was introduced that was immediately obviously problematic, and performing a quickban was a way to save time. Volcarona was in the tier for over 6 months without any changes to its moves or mechanics. By definition it was not a new...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    Holy shit y'all quickbanned Volcarona? Hahaha oh no! I ain't reading back 10+ pages of text, but of course people be mad. Quickbans are for Pokemon who are immediately obviously broken. Volcarona was in OU for 6+ months this generation. Nothing has changed for it after Home was released. If...
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