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  1. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Tera Dark Maushold. STAB Technician Bite with a Tidy Up boost tears through the ghosts, and one selling point of Maushold - and the reason I suggested it - is outspeeding Ogerpon, so your own Ogerpon isn't covering that need. I wasn't recommending the mice for the hazard clear, but for revenge...
  2. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Maushold outspeeds Ogerpon and can OHKO with Population Bomb (needs 8 hits, so ~92% chance), which forces the Ogerpon player to think carefully about going for the SD instead of attacking immediately, and also is a very reliable way to revenge kill - just make sure you have a backup plan that...
  3. Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 12 - Moth To A Flame

    No matter how true "It causes pressure in the builder," may be, most players cannot build worth a hot damn. Without specific examples, it's just not a compelling argument because the average player literally does not know what it means. "Sure, (Insert Suspect Test Mon Here) requires multiple...
  4. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Yes. You click Tidy Up, they switch into Lando-T which normally counters Maushold, then you unleash the Tera Blast Ice.
  5. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    With the rise of Landorus-T, I have some delicious low-ELO heat for anybody interested in trolling around. Maushold Tera Ice Wide Lens Population Bomb Encore Tidy Up Tera Blast You are completely stonewalled by Gholdengo, but in exchange you get this lovely calc: 252 Atk Tera Ice Maushold...
  6. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    I agree. We should ban Recover, Slack Off, Morning Sun, (any other Recover clones that get used in OU I'm forgetting), Rest, and Leftovers. Strength Sap makes progress so it can stay. This is somehow a more reasonable solution than "Lets ban things that survived a suspect test already in...
  7. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    I got a bit curious about the Eleki suggestions, and I'm not sure that's crazy talk. The Transistor nerf and general offensive power creep means it actually has defensive checks without dipping into lower tiers, as well as options to revenge it or switch in, eat a hit, and force it out...
  8. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    To misquote Syndrome, "When everyone is broken...nobody is." Everything currently in the tier, even the most powerful mons, have counterplay. Everything from stall to HO is viable at all points on the ladder, the closest thing we have to a single centralizing mon - Kingambit - has exploitable...
  9. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    No. Kokoloko is meant to very quickly bring order to chaos, and we don't have chaos, nor is there any big rush - this is our metagame for at least a year, and maybe more if Nintendo decides they want to line the next generation up with Pokemon's anniversary.
  10. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Lugia would be an interesting addition for some multi-week tournament, but dropping it straight into OU is crazy talk. Even if it can be handled, it is the definition of meta-warping thanks to massive bulk, reliable recovery, and a good setup move.
  11. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    If the reasons for not banning Terapagos-Stellar did not include, "We do not have the ability to track this mon separately," then I would be happy to launch a crusade to bring base Terapagos back to OU; it's got some useful traits, even if it'd likely end up low on the VR. Sadly, needing core...
  12. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Other than Corviknight (who is already running Defog at 60%), which defoggers do you expect to see sudden jumps in usage?
  13. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    F: Ban Heavy Duty Boots. Kids have it too easy these days, we need to get back to early gens when you had two or three viable Rapid Spinners and no Defog. Suffering builds character. :insert grumpy old man from Up: Heavy Duty Boots are doing some heavy duty lifting, but we've seen a lot of...
  14. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    I don't believe people are broadly anti-ban, but I do believe there is nothing so obviously a problem that virtually everyone agrees it has to go, like Bloodmoon was, or that has a defining moment of dominance, like Archaludon did in Week 1 SPL. There's just a bunch of strong offensive threats...
  15. Resource Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread

    With those stubby arms, even as it drowns it doesn't leave much splashing. For specific reasons: it is supremely passive. Blissey does not drain momentum, it brings it to a complete halt while strapping an afterburner onto its opponent. For a stall team that's fine, but even the bulkiest of...
  16. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    Then be the change you want to see and start one on Discord. It'll start out challenge-only, and if it gets popular it'll become supported on Showdown. The only reason such a group doesn't exist is that none of the ban-tera advocates care enough to invest the time and effort to make it happen.
  17. Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 11 - We Didn't Start the Fire

    This isn't a sarcastic question, but: how much of the "too restrictive in team building" argument do you believe is based on people just actually being bad at team building?
  18. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    The idea is that they switch in their Fast Thing on the turn I click Tidy Up and get slowed down by the webs, so now I'm faster than whatever they tried to outspeed me with. Thus, they need to hold the Fast Thing in reserve and Maushold gets a free kill on whatever swapped in; +1 Population...
  19. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Volcarona Banned]

    I've been toying around with Maushold, and that 111 speed means it can revenge kill Ogerpon, even without chip: 252 Atk Technician Maushold Population Bomb (10 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Ogerpon-Wellspring: 400-480 (132.8 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO Eight hits is enough to OHKO from full, seven...
  20. Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 11 - We Didn't Start the Fire

    People who are content with the status quo don't tend to post as much, while people who want to see change will be very prominent and noisy. This is Nixon's "silent majority" - that you only hear from people who want to shake things up. Now that the status quo is (seemingly) "ban Gouging...
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